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DVDFS or Video?

 
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Which would you prefer to see develeped/released first?
Cino DVD Video playback + DVDFS for Iyonix
40%
 40%  [ 10 ]
DVDFS only for Iyonix, Cino coming later
48%
 48%  [ 12 ]
DVDFS for other RISC OS machines, Cino coming later
12%
 12%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 25

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aemulor
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 11:32 pm    Post subject: DVDFS or Video? Reply with quote

We'd like some feedback as to what people would like first - DVD Video playback, or DVDROM FS supporing DVD data discs.

I've posted a poll attached to this posting - your feedback will be most usefull.

Cheers,


Neil


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ksattic



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no - I selected the wrong choice. I meant to select "DVD video" instead of the DVD filing system. I'm confused - don't you need a working DVD filing system in order to play videos? Why would a DVD filing system on its own be useful at the moment when you can't burn DVDs on RISC OS?
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aemulor
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DVDFS is not required to play DVDs - as we proved at the SE show at Guildford.

Cino currently just reads raw data from DVDATAPI without any UDF filing system support (only basic knowlege of the ISO CD format is used to find the location of the first video VOB file)

The poll should read differently : "DVDFS" or "DVDFS +Cino" - I'll ammend it.

Cheers,

Neil
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In reply to ksattic: Check out DVD-RAM as a storage medium. 4.7GB per side, read/write 100k times per sector; treat it like a hard disc; there's no separate burning stage. It's an excellent archiving and backup medium. We use them at work in the products we design and manufacture. I'd like to have a DVD-RAM drive in my Risc PC for these purposes. Stuff the video - that's what a DVD player and TV are for.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure I'd have a use for cino as I have a DVD player. MIght buy it though depending on the price.

Not at all certain I'd buy DVDFS for Iyonix. I dont currently have DVD's with data on so I'd not have much use for it for that and the CDFS on the Iyonix has read all the CD's I've needed to read so far.

However if I could write DVD's of any sort then I'd buy it!
I currently write CD's on the Iyonix for the RISC OS side and the capacity of DVD's would make things much easier.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DVDFS support would be essential to grab new customers to the platform - the world has now moved onto BIG data movements (my company uses DVD RAM)

so even just being able to read them would make a huge difference to me and prospectic customers.

Get it working on the Iyonix first then on the RPC.

Very Happy

keep the work up
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what would you read from a DVD data disc that would be of any use on a RISC OS machine? Unless you could write as well as read DVD data discs, I can't think of a reason why DVDFS would be a better idea than a DVD movie player first.
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adrianl
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CDFS can only read the first session of a multi-session CD. DVDFS alone would perhaps be more useful for reading all CDs properly rather than reading DVDs.

Personally, I want it for watching DVDs of course Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would definitely like DVD video playback. DVDROM FS doesn't really interest me so much as I don't need to access data DVDs and I don't have any CDs that CDFS can not read.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrian - I don't understand what you mean by CDFS not reading sessions after the first on a multi-session CD. I thought it had done this for a long time. I just burned a two-session disc now, and it reads both sessions just fine.
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adrianl
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ksattic wrote:
Adrian - I don't understand what you mean by CDFS not reading sessions after the first on a multi-session CD. I thought it had done this for a long time. I just burned a two-session disc now, and it reads both sessions just fine.

It could be that I was using an out of date CDFS module. IIRC I upgraded CDFS after trying a multi-session CD so maybe it works now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aemulor wrote:
DVDFS is not required to play DVDs - as we proved at the SE show at Guildford.
Cino currently just reads raw data from DVDATAPI without any UDF filing system support (only basic knowlege of the ISO CD format is used to find the location of the first video VOB file)
The poll should read differently : "DVDFS" or "DVDFS +Cino" - I'll ammend it.
Cheers,
Neil

Hi Neil,
When can we expect cino for the RISC PC, i just bought the Foundation DVD, but i cannot read it in my both cd-rom players.
Does the foundation DVD runs in a normal dvd player ???
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